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[parthenia]

You know, guys, I'm totally not feeling the love at the moment. So, I'm thinking:

...Take a little LJ break

All my frieeeeeeeeeends are here. Tempting though, it's just raising my blood pressure just now.

...Unsubscribe from metafandom

OOoooh. Mind you it's not the subscribing is it? It's the looking.

...Leave Harry Potter LJ fandom.

Hmmm. Tempting. Also, do not wish to be spoiled.

Perhaps supernatural would be far less wanky. *looks around hopefully*

...Post yet another deeply unpopular opinion.

Hasn't worked yet, although I am beginning to realise that my default reaction is 'unpopular opinion.'

I like corporations. Sometimes. I don't always like not-for-profit; well, that's not quite correct but I do not see that not-for-profit is necessarily a way of avoiding the stuff that people don't like when Six Apart do it.

Mind you I can't be the only person who thinks: gosh, if no-one's going to buy a Permanent Account...

Of course, I'd look a bit tragic all by myself.

...Flee to another provider.

WHY? WHY WHY WHY, server collapse apart?

Of course 'parthenia' at greatestjournal is already bloody taken. Sodding typical.

Is this just a phase, oh wise ones?

Things I am deeply loving: Ugly Betty OMG. Also, Doctor Who.

Ugly Betty has some of the best lines ever though:

'I'm totally out of this house by the time I'm 40.'
'You can be my seeing-eye gay.'

I just watched the Guadalajara episode, and I just loved Marc/Amanda. Also Betty. and Justin. And Hilda. And Henry. and Wilhelmina.

In which case, oh all-powerful f-list: can anyone point to some general communities, especially those that make the nice icons?

Comments

[thysanotus.livejournal.com]

Supernatural fandom is very shiny. And the boys are quite pretty, which also helps, I find.

I'm with you on the leaving. All my things are here! I don't think I can leave behind almost four years of memories so easily. Plus, how do we know that this isn't going to all blow up again somewhere else?

[parthenia14.livejournal.com]

It will totally blow up somewhere else and you know why? Because the fans blew it up all by themselves, when they were dissed.

Sooner or later one of the alternatives would do something similarly wanky, and kaboom.

Aargh! I need to watch, I have so much stuff i'm being pimped.

[thysanotus.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think you're right. You know, I'm kind of glad that I missed the whole thing - sometimes being out in the bush and away from everything is nice (a forced lj break? How lovely!).

You do. I think you'll either love it or hate it - it's the pattern I've noticed among my friends, anyway. I was indifferent to it at first - well, before I watched the show anyway - and now I can't get enough of it.

[meredyth-13.livejournal.com]

Talk to me about Ugly Betty, honey. We will ignore the other stuffs, because all I have to hand is a plastic emery board, and they'll let me take that on a plane it's so harmless. *growls*

I don't even understand the premise behind Ugly Betty - except that I found the title offensive, and the fact that the girl involved is actually quite pretty, just 'uglied up' in a very hollywood way kind of reinforced my being offended, and thus I never watched it. So... what the frick is it about? Why should I watch it? (aside obviously for some clever quotes). Can I put my 'girl power' genes on hold? Am I wrongfully wroth?

Greatest Journal is well enough, I suppose, but not handsome enough to tempt me (ok, totally stole that line *snerk* - and yes, I have a GJ, but I can't see myself doing this elsewhere until a much better alternative is offered, and I can drag every single person I like with me).

btw, your opinions have been pretty popular with me. just in case you were feeling unloved. :D

[thysanotus.livejournal.com]

*drive-by glompage*

[kyuuketsukirui.livejournal.com]

Oh, oh, oh, you should watch Ugly Betty! It is seriously the best thing ever.

And no, Betty is not ugly, but she works for a fashion magazine, where everyone is really bitchy and superficial, so in their eyes she is. It will sound horribly sappy, but IMO the show is about accepting people for who they are, whether they are "ugly" like Betty, or gay or transsexual/gender (yes, one of the main characters is mtf and she's not played as a joke), or whatever. But it's not preachy.

[parthenia14.livejournal.com]

Betty is AWESOME.

It's a grand soap opera, both comic-book (in terms of plot development and look) and serious. Over time everyone stops being a cut-out.

What Grace said. The cast features evil superboss Wilhelmina, and her fawning camp acolyte, Marc (who still hasn't told his mum he's gay); Amanda, the world's bitchiest receptionist; Betty's babelicious sister Hilda and her son Justin who's about 12 and totally into musical theatre; then there's Betty's klutzy, dim, handsome boss and ooh various others.

It's not sexist at all. I know what you mean about the title, but it's not what you think. Very, very funny and kind of warm without ever getting sentimental.

[kyuuketsukirui.livejournal.com]

UGLY BETTY YAY

[parthenia14.livejournal.com]

GIP!

[pshtaku.livejournal.com]

*icon love*

Ugly Betty also yay

[parthenia14.livejournal.com]

G I P.

[pshtaku.livejournal.com]

shooperb!

[rhythmaning.livejournal.com]

The chocolates or Mark? The chocolates are were mine...

[pshtaku.livejournal.com]

teh chocolates of course!

[f4f3.livejournal.com]

The Love is temporarily unavailable due to sunspots. At least I hope that's what it is.

[parthenia14.livejournal.com]

PS. 37 29 37 for any spare clothes/fabric buying capacity.

*wibbles*

If India is Imperial. Oh. Hmm.

[f4f3.livejournal.com]

Sorted.

[f4f3.livejournal.com]

Oh, and they don't write numbers like those anymore...

[jonem.livejournal.com]

Ugly Betty is one of the few shows I make time for on a regular, weekly basis.

Mainly for lines like the ones above, I must admit, bt also for scenes involving Marc and Amanda for sheer laughs.

[parthenia14.livejournal.com]

I loved Marc and Amanda this week. It fair brought a tear to my eye.

Also lines like 'your little fag haggis.' LOL.

[aubrem.livejournal.com]

what wank, where? Am I missing things again?

[parthenia14.livejournal.com]

Deletegate, Fanlib and all the endless things that have flowed since then. I am weary.

[amelia-eve.livejournal.com]

Uh-oh, I think you are the one who will push me across the line into meta.

It's probably a complete coincidence that all this censorship business came so closely on the heels of the FanLib/boy/girl/money/co-op flap, but I think it's a continuum. A big part of what has come out of the cathexys/Jenkins stuff is fundamental discussion about fandom as a grassroots, cooperative, non-monetarized community that remains free ideologically because it remains free economically. Flying under the radar is what keeps fandom from becoming beholden to TPTB; it's essentially a chaotic/entropic open source ethos.

So all the LJ/6A IPA stuff and should fans buy shares, etc., is fundamentally antithetical to that open source model. Fans as shareholders essentially creates a hierarchy that has not previously existed between older, wealthier fans and younger entry-level fans. It suggests the need for an organization to govern proxy voting and represent disparate fandoms as a bloc. It's all about The Man, and fandom is so not about The Man. (And the initial proposal came from my best friend, which just shows that opposites attract, I guess.)

So, erm, I agree with you that there is not much point switching service providers, since fans cannot control the media without giving up some intrinsic aspects of their fannish souls. Let's all be lazy and stick with LJ.

(Yup, this was the meta post. Thank goodness most of this flap took place while I was on vacation.)

[parthenia14.livejournal.com]

Everything I have read makes me supect that fans would be nightmarish as owners - ok for small scale niche stuff, but not for a giant archive project. Equally, lots of fans are loud but poor, which isn't a lot of use in buying stock.

I'd rather that fans' loudness got used to participate or contribute to discussions.

What worries me about some of this is a sense of biting the hand that feeds. Six Apart seems like a reasonably corporate overlord that occasionally makes crap decisions; but in spite of what I'm reading everywhere, they're coming over to me at least, as fairly supportive of fans' activities.

[amelia-eve.livejournal.com]

Oh yay! We can sit together on the Middle-Aged Sell-Outs Bench. I have spent enough time being something like The Man to appreciate how much work it is, and I think Six Apart could do a lot worse.

[amelia-eve.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah, also PLEASE DON'T LEAVE!! I would miss you.

[parthenia14.livejournal.com]

Mwahahaha. Well, I'll be the one turning the lights out.

[lyras.livejournal.com]

This is the third post along these lines on my flist in 24 hours. As I said to someone last night, I'd take a break if I didn't feel responsible for posting those gift ficlets whenever I have time. I am seriously tired of all the wank and misery and righteous anger (even when I agree with some of it). Plus yes, don't want to be spoiled for Deathly Hallows!

You could sort of take a fandom break, but still check your flist? Just not click on posts that deal directly with fandom. Unless they all do...

[parthenia14.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I need distance. This is supposed to be fun, not painful analysis and rending of garments.